They're reaching upwards to their goals, and that's why the python shape, the snake shape in this upwards fashion, these three bars, it's meant to symbolize that, that people are doing that with their python skills and with their coding skills. Hello, and welcome to the Pibytes podcast, where we talk about Python career and mindset. We're your hosts. I'm Julian Sequeira. And I am Bob Baldebozz. If you're looking to improve your python, your career, and learn the mindset for success, this is the podcast for you. Let's get started. Welcome back to another Pie Bytes podcast episode. I am your host, Julie, your hostess with the mostest, Julian. And I'm here with the other hostess with the slightly less mostist, Bob. How you going, man? Hey, man. What is that for? Introduction? That's. Welcome back to the Pirates podcast. This is Bob. I'm here with Julian. And I'm Julian trying to be brought down by the man. I'm in a. I'm in a fantastic mood. Do you know why? Tell me, tell me, tell me. I'll tell you. So I don't know everyone who doesn't know me. I have been struggling with no physical infrastructure at my house, for the Internet, for a home network, it's just been wi fi. Even with the mesh system, it has been terrible. And today I had some electricians come out and run all my cailing through my house for me because there was no way I was going to do that myself. And it is beautiful. I have an amazing connection hardwired in. It's just beautiful. I'm so happy. Stable, no dropouts. Oh, that's exciting. Yep. There you go. There's my wings. There's my nerd technical win. Nice. But I digress. This is a Python podcast and a mindset and career podcast. So, everyone, thank you for indulging me. Bob, let's start off with some wins. Go for it. What's your win for this week? Putting me on the spot. Yeah, I'm really stoked about using Docker on AWS Lambda. So now we can support scikit learn on the platform or any library. I mean, we could already with the way we zipped up things on alias Lambda, but when we need bigger libraries, we officially got around that limitation. So we can do any libraries on the platform now or any combination. Yeah, that's wicked. Have you got an example of how we're using? Yeah, sorry. The backstory was that we had a really cool iris data set, bytes sitting on our queue for quite a while, and it was using scikit learn and pandas. And of course we need pytest to run the test. And that exceeded the 250 meg, which is the limitation of AWS lambda. But if you put it in a container, in a docker image, then you can have bigger. Then you basically work around that size constraint, which we got working. And I presented that also in the PDM code clinic. And yeah, it's cool stuff. It's Amazon AWS. It's really working well for us. Yeah. I'm so excited. That's a really, really good win. Thank you. Thank you for sharing. All right, I'll jump in with my win. This is a very special win because I have been doing less coding than I would have liked, which really stinks to it. Really frustrates me. Focusing a lot on the business, on the podcast, on mindset and all that stuff. So I've been dying to get back into coding. So my win is that, well, this is giving. Well, this is for everyone else, not for you. Because, you know, you and I have started coding something together. It's been a while since we did it, and I'm really excited. It's. So every Wednesday night is our pair programming night. You spend a good hour to an hour and a half just coding together and building. You're really drilling the django in, which is fantastic. Learning lots of tidbits. I didn't know before. You're actually impressing me. Can you believe it? I can't believe it. But no, it has been super rewarding and it's definitely the highlight of my week every Wednesday night. And I just can't wait. It's good fun. So thank you and good night. Awesome, man. Yeah, it's a double win because. And your getting your coding skills up and we're building something, right? We're building something secret. Yeah. Some, some cool app which we'll at some point definitely going to show, but solve one of our problems first. Yeah. Scratching our own edge. Right. As we always say. And learning by building. Learning by building. Yeah, jit, just in time learning. I burned all your books and manuals and I said, no, no, son. We're just going to sit together, OG pair program sessions and you're just going to learn it on the fly. If this isn't the greatest ad for PDM, I don't know what is. It's been implicit. Right. Explicit is better than nice. That's true, though. You're learning it by building and that's the point, so. Exactly. And it's super rewarding. I got it. As I said, it was sort of cliched, but I said this the other night to you. I said, I've learned more in the past hour and a half than I've learned in, like, the past year. And it was just super condensed. It's just amazing, you know, what you learn from the expert, from people who've done it, who know the tips and tricks and have gone through all the slog and the hard work, you know? Yeah. But you also see me get stuck, right? You probably noticed that I don't all the time, all that stuff from memory, I have to look stuff up. And so that's. I think that's interesting for you as well, to see the whole process, not just. And then when I ask a question that's you weren't expecting, you're like, you know what? Let's look into that. We dive into the codes deeper, which is pretty cool. And we're building something semi complex. So we. We do a lot of design and architecture as well, and we have to re. We've had to redesign as we built as well if we went, you know what? We should factor this in for scaling. So let's. Let's go back and change that. So it's cool, sassy thing, right? I won't say we'll talk about it quite. You don't give it away. So what do you got for us today, then? All right, so this is a bit of an. As you can tell, we're in a good mood, fantastic mood. And we're being self indulgent. Indulgent this episode. So thank you for listening. We do appreciate you putting up with us a little bit here, but we wanted to share and it's kind of ironic. This is an audio medium. We have a new logo. Yay. A brand new logo for pie bytes. And it's super exciting because it took a lot of work, a lot of planning, a lot of fact finding, diving into what we're about, where we want to go, who we are as people, Bob and I, and also what pie bytes is and what it means to the people that work with us and what we want it to mean to everyone who's yet to work with us. So, um, yeah, where can. Where are we going to have the image? People can see it, Bob. It's on the website, it's on the platform. It's almost everywhere. It's not in the email signature. I noticed, but. Oh, yeah, I got to fix that. It's always the last one. You remember, two months into a new job and you're like, I still got the old email signature that's everywhere. Yeah. And a big shout out to Ranui rice, our designer. Yes. Above and beyond. Diving into this. It's kind of funny, right? The actual drawing and creation of the image took, what, a couple of days? But the deep diving into the meaning behind it took quite a long time, relatively speaking. So it's really cool that we got to. There's so many more nuances than we expected. And he has such a great eye for detail. It's just impressive. So, yeah, it's audio, but, yeah, if you go look, basically it's three bars in a progressive upward trend, and the last one has a snake head coming out. That's the visual representation. But what does it mean? Can you answer to that? So there's a few pieces to it. So you've got the three bars in an upwards fashion, like a staircase. Right. And we like that because it's almost like an upwards progression. We get people to their goal. They're walking upstairs, they're climbing the mountain, they're reaching upwards to their goals. And that's why the python shape, the snake shape in this upwards fashion, these three bars, it's meant to symbolize that, that people are doing that with their python skills and with their coding skills. So that's one piece to it. What was the other piece? Bob, also. But I think the logo represents. It's not only Python. Yeah. Python is a big part of it. Right. But it's also the developer skills, the holistic developer skills, the design of applications and the marketability, the mindset. So the growth is not only python and syntactically about learning the language, but it's so much more. Right. So that career and mindset aspect, I really can see in that logo, and it represents that well. And I think that comes across in the color as well. The bluish color. It's. It's. There's a respect to it, there's a authority to it, but there's also the casual nature of us. Right. Where we're chilled, we're human. It's. It's not harsh, it's not cold. Yeah, I really. That's. That color really landed with me. It's. And, you know, the funny thing is, it's not something I would have considered before the review with Ra, the color was a big deal. Right. We got, like 20 revisions and we were, you know, going between a lighter, darker blue green, but then it doesn't. That's more hospital green, although we like green. Right. Green is kind of progressive. And you know, and. But it's. No, the blue. The color is perfect now. Color has a lot of meaning. Exactly. Yeah. We never even thought of that before and. Sorry, that's a good point. We didn't even think about it. So the expert help, it goes to show, like, just. Just in general. Right. Hire an expert, hire somebody that has the experience, because there were so many things in this process we didn't know. Couldn't even anticipate it, and that made it better. Yeah. You know, you're exactly right. And when you compare it to the logo we had before, for everyone who's been here for a while and seen our old logo, it's just, you know, that planet Earth cartoony looking thing with the word pibytes on it and a python logo, that's pretty much it. And there was nothing special about it that really spoke about us. The only sort of guidance that went into it was that, hey, we have an audience around the world and we code and we teach python. I think it's also where we were or started and where we are now. Right. Because we started as a community and that world globe cartoony thing was very kind of in line with that. Right. Where we started. Yeah, that's true. But then we went into the coaching and doing more than only python, more gearing. Gearing towards developer mindset. And again, I think this logo is a much better match. So, yeah, the previous logo, definitely, apart from aesthetics, became outdated. Right? Yeah, you're right. There's a progression. And this is just another representation of our growth, as in the community, as a business, as coaches, as just you and I in general, we're very different to where we used to be five years ago. So when the logo was first created, the other thing I'll throw in there, which I remember rai pointing this out, and it really hit home with me, was he also created it in that staircase fashion, because not just to show that people will are walking up the stairs to their goal, but at the front, the head of the python is there. Right? The front is there. And that's meant to symbolize you and I as the people who know Python, who know the skills, who have the skills, who are teaching, who are leading. And the other bars, the two bars that are behind it, are the people that we're coaching. They're our audience. So the people that we're bringing up, that we're leading to success. And that was really cool. I thought that was awesome. So which one they. Yeah, come through. They're not only becoming good developers, but also leaders in the space, right. There's more than just the tangible developer skills. They probably becoming content providers. They're probably going to speak at conferences or mentor other people. So it's not only becoming a developer, but they also going to give back and experience personal growth. Yeah. And to me, it suits our values. We've spoken about our values before on the podcast that we're about lifting people up. We're bringing people to the table, giving them a voice when they otherwise wouldn't think they have it. And this logo really does to me symbolize that with us bringing people up, us leading people to the table, to their goal, to places where they can have a voice and feel confident to do that. So, yeah, I like it, man. I'm happy. And I hope everyone, if you're listening, please go check out the website, go to Twitter, wherever you find us. The logo is there and you can have it. Check it out if you haven't already. We're pretty proud of it, as you can tell. And thanks, everybody, for the community you listening, for your support and your help getting us where we are today. Yep, without a doubt, every, every one of you listening has influenced us with your emails, with your just following us, with your. Even if it's just a response to a tweet or a like or something, you tell us what it is you like. You've helped shape the future of pibytes and we're super grateful for all of you. So thank you, especially those of you who listen every week. You know, we do appreciate your support. Awesome. So what's next? What's next? What are you reading? I'm reading antifragile. Nassim Taleb. I remember that podcast with Ryan about skinning again. So that was a pretty insightful book. So when I'm reading a solar book. Nice. You. Well, I started a book that I didn't tell you about. I apologize. I did this behind your back. I feel like a criminal. It's called Create space by Derek Draper and it's really cool. I'm only like, I'm listening to the audiobook, so I lie. I'm not reading at all. I'm cheating. But no, I love the audiobooks. So I'm listening to this and it's a very unique perspective. I'll share this thing first and foremost, as part of the introduction, which I've only just finished, he came to an. He had an epiphany, the guy writing the book, Derek. And he said that it hit him that we are the first generation of humans that have ever existed. Where we are trying to create more space, where we need to create space in our lives because we're so busy, overwhelmed, screens everywhere, life attacking people, attacking us with life around every corner, and we are trying to actually get away from it to create space. Whereas at every other time in human history, people have been trying to fill that space, you know, they've been trying to find things to do. You didn't have things on demand. You couldn't just pull up the Internet and have things at your fingertips and so on and so forth. So really interesting book about creating space for the sake of your success, your mental health, for everything, really. And I'm very impressed with it so far. So we'll see how that's interesting. That sounds like a thought provoking read. Yeah, yeah. We'll have to do a podcast episode on it when we. When I get further through it. So give me another two years. Yeah, I don't. Another book to my wish list to my birthday. So I can probably afford it then. No, just kidding. I'll buy it for you. A lot of budget to it in the nineties, it's called the nineties. Came in writing holidays email newsletter about the nineties and how things were so different then. Like you had the yellow pages and you had your full list, full address listed for everybody to see, and now all the Internet. So that is kind of one thing he highlighted in his review of the book. And that got me kind of interested because I was around in the nineties, right? I was young, I was a kid, so I know the difference. So it will be a fun, nostalgic read. Oh, man, that sounds great. I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna have to get it. That's a book I'm really looking forward to reading, you know, buying and reading. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Having to turn on your tv without a remote control. Yeah, that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah, that's cool. I like it. All right. Enter the library to get answers instead of instantly through Google. Oh, yeah, those. That was actually fun. You know, it makes me sad that my kids don't know what the Encyclopedia Britannica was and that you had to go to a library and look up, okay, the encyclopedia for the letter a. Stop there because there's going to be a Roblox. There's going to end up with Roblox. Yeah. Just warning you, I was complaining about Roblox. Screw you, Roblox. Yeah, exactly. Now we left you Roblox. Yes, please support us. Yeah, please, Roblox overlords support us. Yeah, it's called this podcast. Anyway, that's what the Roblox. No, we'll get rid of Roblox one day. One day in this house. So we'll stop there. We'll stop yapping away. Thank you so much for listening to this very indulgent episode of just Bob and I yapping away and sharing our love of our new logo. Thank you again for all of your support. We very much appreciate you listening. So that's it for me. Anything from you? No. We have ideas. You probably have better ideas, so always share them with us. The best content we always produce when we get some feedback. So reach out. Rate the podcast if you like this, it always helps growing the awareness of the show. And again, thanks for listening. We hope you enjoyed this episode. To hear more from us, go to Pibyte friends, that is Pibit es friends, and receive a free gift just for being a friend of the show and to join our thriving slack community of Python programmers, go to Pibytes community. That's Pibit es forward slash community. We hope to see you there and catch you in the next episode.