If you were to actually stack it in your favor by doing these things, like seeking the coaching that we're talking about, as you just said, bob, as. By volunteering for these things, putting your hand up, getting uncomfortable, by sharing your portfolio out, by building apps, by networking, spending time with people, all those things that's stacking the cards in your favor, and if you're doing all of those things, the success will come. Hello and welcome to the Pibytes podcast, where we talk about Python Career and mindset. We're your hosts. I'm Julian Sequeira. And I am Bob Baldebos. If you're looking to improve your python, your career, and learn the mindset for success, this is the podcast for you. Let's get started. Welcome back to another PI Bytes podcast episode. This is Julian, and I'm here with Bob. How's it going, man? Waving. Why am I waving? We are on video, I think. Yeah. So this is the first time we're actually recording the podcast, and we're recording the video of us recording the audio. So this is something we're trying new. So obviously, if you're listening to this on your normal podcasting software or app, you can't see it, but I think in the show notes we might be able to do that. We'll have a link to the YouTube video, so you can actually watch this episode as we're doing it. Isn't that. Isn't that exciting? Yeah, you can see us, you can comment. And actually, my heart started pounding. Now, this is nerve wracking in the end, pushing outside of the comfort zone. Look, I'm. As I'm saying this, I'm staring at you. Yeah, the viewer. We're not live per se, right? So. No, we're not live. So we will be editing this if we have to, but normally we don't have to edit much. So anyway, how are you going, Bob? What's happening? Yeah, pretty good. As I wrote in the email, right. I had that break in the Netherlands was really good. Not taking the laptop. The price was heavy in the sense that when I was back, there was a lot to do, but, yeah, excited. You know, PDM is growing, working on content, working with the people, and a lot of interesting stuff going on. Picked up some python study as well, of course. Always learning and. Yeah, good stuff. What about you? No, nothing in comparison. Nothing. Moving on to the next topic. Moving on. Did you have a win? I do have a win. I do have a win. So I actually think it's really important to share the small wins that might mean everything to you, but be completely mundane and mean nothing to everyone else. And so in this situation, it's on the weekend. So for those of you that have been listening for a while, in January this year, we moved houses up the coast, an hour and something north of Sydney. And this Sunday, I cut up the last cardboard box that went in the recycling bin. And my garage is finally cardboard free so I can move stuff around. I can actually put things where I want them to go. I can move the gym properly, actually fit a car in the garage, too. It's so exciting. So it means nothing to all of you listening. So I appreciate those 30 seconds, but to me it's just like liberation. I feel free of this stuff. So there's my win. Peace of mind, right? Feels good. Until we get the next Amazon delivery or something. And there's more cardboard back in the garage. But anyway, what about you? What's your win? I hate that you have a gym in, in your garage. That's so cool. Oh, it's the. So sweet. I love it. It's just gathering dust. No, I'm kidding. It's getting a workout. Talking about gym. Yeah, that's my win. I think that I'm doing the gym. I was doing the gym. I'm doing enough first thing in the morning, so I'm not putting it off. And I'm also, like, tracking my progress. So, you know, progressive overload. You cannot really improve if you don't have a benchmark. Right. What gets measured gets managed. So tracking that stuff and feels great, you know, like small wins, as you're saying. Right. Like every week getting a little better. And that comes with just persistence. Yeah, I love it. And I actually took your approach, by the way. I think I told you this. I have a little notebook in the garage now next to the gym with a pencil. And I write down all the reps and sets and stuff. So I can slowly see that progression of like, oh, one extra rep this week and it's quite nice. I like seeing that. Build an app for that. There you go. App idea. I bet it exists, but we should do that. You can comment also on the YouTube comments if you have built it. And if you have, if you've already built this, please let us know in the, let us know in the comments below. Make sure you like and subscribe to anyway. All right, so let's jump into the episode. This won't be the longest episode we've ever had as it's just Bob and I. It's actually, yeah, it's you and me, for the first time in, we've had so many guests. Right. Which was awesome. But we were also like, when did we record together for the last time? Yeah, I know. When we were planning this over the weekend, over WhatsApp messages, we were like, oh, my gosh. Gets to be just the two of us for the first time in, like a month. So this is exciting. And I'm starting to, I was going to say some, some of you listening have said, oh, we love it when you guys have guests on, but we also want it to be just the two of us sometimes. But we've got guests coming for the next few episodes as well, so it's going to be pretty hectic. We're also getting closer to episode 100. Yeah, yeah, I know. Let's get into scary. Yeah, let's jump in. So I wanted to talk about luck today and this, actually, you know, again, a lot of these topics come from conversations that I have with people, but the concept of luck when it comes to success. And I guess the, the underlying point I want to make is that if anyone tells you that they weren't lucky, if they considered successful, and they say, oh, luck played no part in my success, then quite bluntly, and I'll say this quite bluntly, they're full of it. They don't have that self reflection going on to understand that luck did play a part. Now, I'll elaborate in a minute. I can imagine there are people who've just pulled their car over on the side of the road and going, what did you just say, julian? I'm successful because of my own efforts. Right. Uh, but the point is, is that luck always plays a part, and you have to acknowledge that. And, uh, Bob, I'm, I'm just going to keep you up in here, if you don't mind. Do you mind? Yeah, yeah. You're on a roll. Keep going, keep going back nodding, sit back. And you should have a beer right now or something. But anyway, so the, it's noon. Yeah, perfect time. So the point is, if, if you do the right things, you can make luck your way, come your way more often. So that's the thing. People who are successful actually do the things that set themselves up to be lucky. Right? So it's a, you know, to use a very, very simple and terrible example here, you can't win the lottery. You can't get lucky and win the lottery unless you buy yourself a lottery ticket. Now, that's a terrible example, because the odds of winning the lottery, that pretty much zip right at nothing. But when it comes to things like a career and your python jobs and the opportunities in front of you and all that sort of stuff that comes with actually getting out there, right. You don't expect to sit on your butt and have a python job land in your lap. Of course not. But you set yourself up for that success, for that, to get lucky, for those serendipitous opportunities to take place by doing certain things so I can have a sip of water. Bob, do you have any examples of things that people would do to be successful in a python space? Sure. Yeah. And I like that saying, the harder I work, the luckier I get, because it's a lot about the effort you put into it to bring it back to python development. How many projects have you built, right. And put in your GitHub? If you're applying for. If you're looking for a python job, how many applications, how many, you know, jobs have you applied for, CV sent out, right. These are simple metrics you can measure, right. And the more you do it and the more you stack up your cards, you know, in your favor, the luckier you can get. Right? I mean, if you go back to how we started, right? Pibytes, we were just a python block. We were nobody, nothing. But we started to put content out there rigorously, and we got on people's radar, for example, talk python. Then we did 100 days of code, and then we had that resource article going viral, mentioning some people. We were definitely getting out there. And then opportunities started to. To happen. Or back in the sport days when I built that surfer telemetry tool. Right? Like, yeah, I got lucky that there was that opportunity. I was definitely watching for it. So, yeah, I could spot it because I was actively had that strong desire to build something. Right? So I got my antennas up, and then I start. I saw that opportunity coming along. Yeah, yeah, no, thank you. It was the same. Same with my first coding job. It came up, as I've said before, so I won't go down that path. But I volunteered to build this app at work. And the luck came into it that the person in the room, as I was presenting on what the app does, just happened to be someone who was preparing to hire a python developer eventually. So there's the luck. But if I hadn't put up my hand and said, yeah, I'll have a stab at coding this app and building it for you, I wouldn't have been in that room with that person at the same time. So. And on that. On that note, talking about people, another point of this is getting out there and networking, right? So if you, you might get lucky to have a conversation with a person at, say, a, I don't know, work, drinks, social event while you're traveling, you know, who knows, right? But those things don't happen unless you actually go and show up to those events and start talking to people. It doesn't happen unless you, you know, reach out to people on LinkedIn and have those conversations. So, you know, perfect example is. Is just catching up with people. For me, specifically when I go overseas for travel, pure luck. This has nothing to do with a work opportunity, but pure luck that I saw a workmate that I haven't seen in three years in the middle of Singapore just because I was having a conversation with someone else who happened to mention that they'd seen him. And it turns out we were 500 meters apart the whole time we were eating dinner. So these things all happen, and it's lucky. But it's not until you make that luck happen. If that makes sense, you put yourself in a situation where you can get lucky. So what's, Bob, if you can think of a call to action here for people listening, what can people do for their python goals, where they're going, whether it be trying to land a job, whether it be trying to get a promotion, whether it be trying to grow their skills, what's something they can do to improve those chances and get lucky? Yeah, I think I mentioned before about the portfolio. I think that's a critical part. So not just code every day, obviously, you need to code every day and study and get better. But do that against something interesting, something you're passionate about, something that you can really show your work for, which usually means side projects. Then host those projects on GitHub, make some of them open source, blog about it, write, writing, communication, critical skill. So get out there and then on top of that, with the networking you were talking about, that's a magic combination, not only putting your work out there, but also strategically reach out to people and see who can help you and where you can add value to people as well. We always say the compound effect, doing that consistently over time, just opens a lot of doors. Right. So that's pretty general advice, but I think in the context of python, I think it's all about the code and sharing your work. And to add to that, though, is that those things don't come easy. Right? So, yeah, takes time, right? And then actually getting out there and sharing it, making that GitHub repo public, these things all take guts, right? They all take confidence and courage. Exactly. So, you know, start small. That's my advice, is start small. Baby steps. You know, share it with someone that you trust. Share it, I mean, you know, share it with someone at work that you might, you know, enjoy sharing code with and talking about code with. You don't have to make it public right away. Get that feedback, get the growth in there and then start sharing it out with people. So there's, there's all sorts of different ways you can tackle this depending on your goal. And that's, I guess, you know, I'd be remiss if I didn't say this. Right. But that's where we come in. That's where Bob and I come in and the PDM coaching program come in. Right. A lot of people come to us without that confidence of they want to build that confidence to be able to build their projects, to be able to code and share it out. They don't know where to start. They don't know. Actually, one of the biggest things that always gets me is like, they don't know what they don't know and just going to say that. Yeah, and they say like, how do I become that person that knows where to get started when I've got blank page syndrome, staring at a blank notepad file or vim file or whatever. Right. They are. How do I get, how do I get started? I'm sick of being that person that hands off the code to a senior developer who takes over because I just don't know where to go from here. So when you're in those situations, it really helps to have that coaching and that's where we come in and that's what we're proud of. And so that's where I'll end this little spiel on the PDM coaching program. But if that's something you need support with, that's where Bob and I come in and we can definitely help with that. Yeah, that's been transformative for people because it's a combination of getting expert code reviews, safe environment, awesome community, and the building process that comes back every time. You can consume a lot of resources, but it's not until you start building something real world that you get stuck and you get through that complexity. Hence a lot of design discussions as well. And that's critical in becoming a developer. So it's fun, it's not easy, but we're very supportive. And yeah, there's that guarantee that you come up with two Capstone MVP projects, which could even be a side hustle business because it's fully customized. We build with you whatever you want to build. And we don't dictate the apps. You come to us with ideas. So. Yep. No, I love it. And just to finish, the topic of luck, right. I did have one thing I wanted to insert. So when it comes with that advice you asked me for, I think it's also a matter of. And it also goes back to having f ideas for PDM, potentially. It's like you have to stand up. Right? Like going back to the help the support example where I saw that opportunity to build a tool, I didn't have to do that. But it's also a matter of taking that responsibility and standing up, raising your hand, like, I'm going to do this bit of fake it before you make it. But people appreciate that because there's always more work and opportunities than people can typically handle. So stand up, say that you're going to do it and then figure out the details later. A lot of mindset there as well. Yeah, yeah, that one's. That one's scary. Yeah, that's exactly it. Right. You volunteer and then you just figure it out from there. That's the greatest way to learn and grow. Right. And develop like a sensor to start looking for opportunities because there's a lot of potential for things to build, you know? Exactly. So. Sorry. Yeah, no, no, I just want to make sure that you got that on tape. It's fine. I could. That's fine. I need to hear it. I want to hear it. So, no, I was going to say on that note of luck, and that actually does relate to what you're saying. Right. To finish this off, you have to stack the cards in your favor. That's pretty much it. You're not cheating the system like as if you actually were to stack a deck of cards in your favor, that's cheating. But if you were to actually stack it in your favor by doing these things, like seeking the coaching that we're talking about, as you just said, bob, as. By volunteering for these things, putting your hand up, getting uncomfortable, by sharing your portfolio out, by building apps, by networking, spending time with people, all those things, that's stacking the cards in your favor. And if you're doing all of those things, the success will come. The underlying theme through all of that is the grit, determination and confidence to actually continue doing it because you won't always get lucky, right? But at some point you will. That luck with all that consistency will pay off. That opportunity will suddenly hit you and you'll be like, oh, yeah, great. And then. And then, my friends, you'll have someone say, geez, you are so lucky for that to happen to you. So lucky. And you'll be the one sitting there going, what are you talking about? It wasn't luck. It was so much effort. So that's what. That's what I mean. It goes full circle. But that's. That's the end of my. My luck story. How'd I do, Bob? Great. Not just luck. Hard work. That was hard work. It didn't just. This was a lot of preparation. No, there was no preparation for this whatsoever. None of our episodes have any preparation. Don't tell them that. Don't tell them the secret. Okay. All right, so to wrap it up, as always, everyone. Thank you for listening, but we want to share about the books. So, Bob, do you have a book that you're reading this week or have been reading? Yeah, I finished a couple for change. Of course you did. No, no, I usually don't finish them. I just hop from the book, you know? So, yeah, downtime in Holland, I bought a copy of Will Smith's Autobio. Read that cover to cover. That's interesting. A lot of mindset, you know? I mean, here you have, like, one of the biggest movie Hollywood stars, just by the numbers and the stats, but, yeah, definitely a lot of struggle as well with his family and the mindset. So, you know, the price of success as well. Right? So there are some valuable lessons in there, Ryan. Holidays, destiny. Discipline is destiny. Well, discipline is everything, right? So highly recommend it. And a lot of what we're saying with the luck and stacking the cards in your favor, that's all discipline, right? It's showing up every day. So really good read. And I finished robust Python as well. That was a great book as well. Like, a lot of new things I learned from that. Sorry, I didn't. Oh, my gosh, I said one. No, I didn't say anything. I want to give people options. Autobiography. Yeah. Mindset. Mindset. And Python, you know, I love it. And for everyone's benefit, this was, what, five days in the Netherlands and you mentioned. No, no, I didn't read all that there, of course. No, no, no. Oh, it was just. No, no. Robust Python I've been reading for over a month, you know, so. Okay, let's be honest. No, it wasn't. There we go. Nice. That makes me feel a little bit better. Yeah. Not that I'm comparing, because I don't compare. Right. We don't do the comparison game. I mean, if anything, I'm jealous that you're able to digest audiobooks because I cannot. Yeah, it's funny where the stack polar opposites with that. You can consume books like it's nothing. And I sit there and struggle with some of them and prefer the audiobook where I can. In the car, in the shower, you know, you name it. While I'm recording a podcast, I'm listening to one right now, in fact. Anyway, all right, so the book I'm reading really quick before we wrap it up, the built the new Bill Bryson book called the Body. I hope you bring that up as I'm excited that you're reading that one. I got it. I wish I had the book in this room. It's by my bed, but it is huge and it weighs a ton. It's such a thick, heavy Tome of a book, a hardcover book. I really love it. And the artwork in it's beautiful. The camera work on the images they put in is just incredible. But yeah, it's just the way he writes it to me is so entertaining and yet so intelligent. I don't know how else to put it, really. I'm not that intelligent, inarticulate, but it's just such a great book. I really enjoy it. So I. I'm reading about the human body here, something that, you know, it interests me, but I would normally find kind of dry to read, but this is just super entertaining. So right now I'm reading about skin and, uh, it's kind of disgustingly cool in, uh, I think it was like every minute you're shedding or every second you shed 28,000 flakes of skin, or every minute, something like that. It's pretty, pretty horrifying. So anyway, I'm going to go have a shower or something. All right, so look, we're done. Thank you, everyone, for listening. As always, we appreciate you tuning in every week, and especially on weeks like this where Bob and I just have a great one to one conversation, one to many, two to many, because you're all listening. So we appreciate you. We appreciate your support and all the people who reach out to tell us that they enjoy the episodes and come and have a chat with us on the phone. We appreciate all of you. So thank you. Anything from you, Bob, before we drop? No, just a big thanks to our audience for exactly tuning in every week. And yeah, all the feedback we have been getting. And yeah, you can always send us an email, info, ibytes or now if you're watching this on YouTube, comment below for ideas, topics. We definitely always want to stay in tune with the audience and provide the best possible content for python developer mindset, career, and I guess, productivity. Perfect. Love it. And if you watch this on YouTube, you can see us in our cool pie bite shirt. Yeah, it was good. It's not really. We didn't even mean to synchronize that. We both just did it. No, you just showed up with a pie bite shirt all of a sudden. That's all I wear, man. All right, thanks, everyone. We'll be back next week. Cheers. All right, thanks. Bye. We hope you enjoyed this episode. To hear more from us, go to Pibyte Friends, that is Pibit es friends and receive a free gift just for being a friend of the show and to join our thriving slack community of python programmers, go to Pibytes community. That's Pibit es forward slash community. We hope to see you there and catch you in the next episode. Hey, everyone, thanks for watching our first YouTube video of the podcast. We appreciate it. And we kind of just wanted to see who actually stays to the end of the audio of the outro music. So if you're seeing this, we appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you for watching it to the end. And we kind of want to be able to measure this because as we always say, what gets measured gets managed. So do us a favor in the comments, can you tell me who all the characters are behind me on the wall? If you can name this one there, that's bonus points, but see if you can put those in the comments below. And what about you? What? What about behind you, Bob? What's that building there? Yeah, nice. That in the comments, we want to see who actually watches to the end. And thanks again. We'll see you next week. And go randomly pick a winner and send for one. Oh, man. For the participation. Perfect. Let's do it.