Between setting the goal and actually reaching the goal might take that full year. It might even take two years. How many times have you set a goal and then you reach the deadline and think, oh, I'm not there yet. And then it takes another six months. Happens often. Hello, and welcome to the Pibytes podcast, where we talk about Python career and mindset. We're your hosts. I'm Julian Sequeira. And I am Bob Baldeboz. If you're looking to improve your python, your career, and learn the mindset for success, this is the podcast for you. Let's get started. Welcome back to another Pie Bytes podcast episode. This is Julie, and I'm here with Bob. How's it going, man? Awesome. Great. Happy to be back. How are you doing today? I'm good, I'm good. It's late at night, so I'm. Let's. Let's hustle this one out because I'm tired. Yeah, yeah, it's fine. It's what we do. So we got to push. Gotta hustle. How's. How's the week going? All good? Yeah. Great. Coding, content, coaching, it's super exciting. Just the wins channel blew up on PDM, people sharing amazing things, but also getting some coding time in because we're so busy. And you? Yeah, working on the. Well, let's just kick off with a wind and SQL model path is progressing. So I made a little fitness tracker kind of app, and I'm breaking it down into exercises. So exciting. Exciting. What about you? Very nice. No, no, it's all good. It's all good. It's been a great start to the week. I'm actually here. I was supposed to be in Seattle this week, so it's nice to be at home that I didn't have to go. So that's always great. But as a pie bytes win, we did hire an extra staffer this week, bring them on board as a contractor. More details on that next week. We're just seeing how it works out first for this first week, but so far so good. I'm very, very impressed. So that's exciting and a big win. Super exciting. Yeah, yeah. And the, the personal win. And I don't think I mentioned this to everyone, but I did mention we had solar panels installed on the house a couple of months back, and our first electricity bill came in, and it was, I'm going to say it was 90% cheaper than the previous bill the previous quarter. So I. I'm over the moon. What a. It was a wonderful investment. So that's good. Yeah. That's impressive. Yeah, yeah. And then, of course, the hot water system broke last week. So all those savings, all that saving is gone. Exactly. But, hey, so for everyone listening and watching, because this is all on YouTube now as well. Hi, YouTube. This is not actually forced, this conversation, because Bob and I have cut down the amount of times we talked during the week. And this is actually the first time we've talked over video. So you're just listening to us now. So thank you for listening to our ramblings, but we do have an episode for you today. We do have something to talk about. And. Do you mind if I just jump in, Bob? Just kick it up, man. Yep. Yeah. Okay, so this. This one I can't think of. Like to come up with a catchy title afterwards, but we sort of wanted to talk about the journey. Loving the journey to your goal. Right. So, uh, I actually have this great chat with, um, I check in with him once a week with Ranui Rice. He was one of our guests on episode. I've got it written down, episode 29. So, way back. Chatting with. Yeah, way back. Way back. We're at 96 now. This is very exciting. Uh, so this is thanks to Ra, to this conversation. It really triggered this. This line of thought. But when you have a goal, it can be given. Your goal can be quite extreme, right? You think about the goals that you might have with python. It might be to land a python job. It might be to get some freedom so that you can work from home or freelance and never have to work for a company ever again. All those sorts of things, right? It could be earning enough money to buy your dream house, build your own business. Build your own business. Get the kids. Yeah, exactly. Get the kids through university or whatever it is, right? A lot of this is monetary, but there's all sorts of things that come with these goals that you might set for yourself. And the catch is, it can take time. Now, these goals don't just happen overnight. You can't just land the python job tomorrow because you suddenly set the goal for tomorrow. So in all likelihood, you'll do things like set your goal to be a year out, six months out, two years out, depending on what it is now, it takes time to get there. So between now and between setting the goal and actually reaching the goal might take that full year. It might even take two years. How many times have you set a goal and then you reach the deadline and think, oh, im not there yet. And then it takes another six months. Happens often, right? And one of the byproducts of doing this that we should all remember is that we can beat ourselves up when we dont hit that goal in the timeline that we want, even before that deadline is there. It can be very hard to stay motivated and keep pushing towards that goal. Especially if you sit there and think, im no closer to that goal than I was two months ago. Two weeks ago. Right. So from a coding perspective, let's think it back to the coding. If you're coding every day, but then, and your goal is to get a job, a year later, you still haven't got the job. But your coding is haphazard. You're coding once a week, you're coding. Sometimes you do a sprint for a week in a row, sometimes you won't code for a month, all those sorts of things. And then you start to feel bad about it and then you give up. Has that ever happened, Bob? To you? Yeah, totally. And then that's what we start telling ourselves, right? Self sabotaging. Are we getting your mindset loops here? We are. We're getting the mindset. You didn't tell me, so. Okay, so from a coding perspective, again, and you're going to throw on an example after this. I know, but from a coding perspective, the challenge I have for all of you listening is we need to fall in love with the process. We need to fall in love with the things that we have to do to achieve the goal. Now, Bob's example is very, it's very visible, it's very tangible, right. But from a coding perspective, it can be very difficult to visualize this. So I'll do my best here. You can code every single day and hate it. And it's going to be very difficult to get to your goal when that's your mindset around coding. If you really dislike it, it's going to be a slog. And maybe another question you should be asking is, is this for me? Right. But here's the catch. If you can separate the difficulty from the fact that it's something that you love doing and embrace it, you're going to hit that goal without even thinking about it. So what I want you to try and do, and that may not have made too much sense as I replay that in my head, but I'm trying. So what I want you to do is think to yourself, what can I do? And how can I tell myself that I love sitting down and coding for an hour every day? So forget the goal. Forget the fact that your goal is to get to a python job and just maybe reposition the goal to be I'm coding every day. My goal is to code every day. My goal is to sit down and code three times a week. Right? And give yourself that win. Give yourself that win that. Hey, you did sit down and code three times a week. You have been sitting down and coding every single day. There's the win. I'm so happy. I'm proud of myself. I'm getting that adrenaline, that endorphin rush. I'm feeling like I'm accomplished. I've hit the goal, right? Because that feeling of hitting your goal is incredible. So if your goal is to code every day, then do that or even start smaller. My goal is to code every second day. And as we always say, if you break it down to these bite sized chunks, you'll see all these tiny little bits of effort that you're putting in actually get you to that goal. Anyway, it's just that you've fallen in love with that process of coding every single day because that's your goal and you love it, right? So I know that it's almost like seeing your GitHub streak, those little green squares happening, right? Giving yourself those little win streaks. If you can fall in love with just ticking those boxes every day that you pushed some code that you coded, then in a year from now, you're going to have a full grid of green boxes and you're going to be able to show proof to yourself, holy crap, I can do this. And I can hit this goal. I can get the job. Did you know we emulated that street calendar on the platform? Yeah, it's on the platform. So those of you who haven't checked out the platform, you could code and every day and get. People love it. It's really motivating seeing those greens, you know? So, to paraphrase, you might have big goals, but if you keep focusing on those big goals, which are usually far out, it can be easy to get demotivated. So you need to enjoy the daily grind and I guess celebrate smaller wins. For example, when we build a coding platform, far out. But I remember those subtasks of, for example, get the GitHub login working on the site. Yay, we got that working. So there were smaller wins. Yeah, just stacking those up kept us going and kept us motivated, I think, with the Pibat CMS, right? Remember we had those pairing sessions and we were like, with a blank Django editor or blank Django project, a blank code editor, and we're like, what the hell? But then we did the models, started to do a view, and now it's way advanced. Right. If he would have just stuck to, like, that end result, it would be very, what was the word you taught me? Arduous. Arduous. Arduous. Yeah. It'd be exhausting and you'd lose that steam. But to break it down even more. So you're talking about the specific features that we coded. And even with the platform, if you break it down to even a more granular approach, I guess, right? Yeah. We celebrated the win that we sat there every Wednesday and did a pair programming session. We showed up. Yeah. We showed up to do it and came to see the weekly recurring invite. Yeah, yeah. And I remember, I think because I had some travel or something, there was a week that we missed it. And I certainly felt that sort of loss of, like, I didn't achieve the goal of sitting down and coding with you on a Wednesday night. And then when I came back and did it the next time, it felt like, yes, I've won. I've achieved the goal, even though the app was not built. That's a good point. That's a good point. To even get to a more micro level, because GitHub login might actually be a four to eight hour developer task. But if you just celebrate the win, the fact that you're putting your daily hour in, that can be massive as compared to going at this journey in a haphazard way. Right? Yeah, exactly. So that's the coding side of it. And as we always do, there's, there's so many other ways that you can apply this in your day to day. So what's. You've got a much more tangible. I don't know what you're alluding to. The whole time I was going to do books, but, um. The gym. Talk about the gym. I didn't prepare. You prepared for me, obviously, then, um. Okay, Jim, now. Or like when I was losing weight and stuff. Maybe that one. Oh, whatever. Whatever works for you. Okay, let's tell the story. So I was overweight a couple of years ago and, yeah, I set out to. So I hired a fitness coach. It's where I learned about coaching, how powerful that can be. And we set out a plan to, you know, hit a good physique. Right. Because I had to lose like ten kilos at least. Right. And, and, you know, that goal can be overwhelming. Is overwhelming. And seeing that week to week can be frustrating because you might not lose as much weight as you want. It's a long journey. Right? Like half a year. Something like a half a year, probably. And so, yeah, you can keep focusing on that ten kilo less goal, but you will lose motivation. Right. So going week by week, measuring the progress, that was really motivating. And it was literally like every workout, just show up, do the work, improving, and a lot of measuring. Right. But measures get managed, as he always quote Peter Drucker on. So that's an example, I think, just the small wins, the daily workouts. Right. Super important. And what. What I remember from, from that is that it's one, it's not easy to do. To show up to the gym every single day, especially when you've. You've never built the habit before, is extremely difficult. But in your situation, I still remember you falling in love with the actual process of going to the gym. So you weren't focused on the ten kilos to lose. You weren't focused on the end goal of, I need a six pack and I want to have my summer body and all that sort of stuff. Right. I want to be able to wear, um, no tight undies. Um, but, you know, you weren't focused on that end goal. You were focused on, I need to get to the gym and I need to freaking love it. And you would have this feeling of elation after every workout. You. I remember you recording WhatsApp messages on the phone, whatever. You'd be like, I did my fifth workout of the week or did my third workout this week, and it just feels fantastic. And the six pack, the arms, the shoulders, the back, all that side effect. Yeah. It just followed. Right. You followed the process of just doing that base habit and forcing yourself to like it and enjoy it. And it's difficult, but it doesn't mean it's not something you don't love to do. Right. There are plenty things I love to do, but it's hard to do it. It's difficult at first when you don't have the habit, but that's. That's the beauty of habits, right? They're hard to build, but once you have these habits in place, they're relatively easy to maintain. Right. So do like your four or five workouts a week for three weeks, and you don't know any better. Right. Actually, when you don't go to the gym, you feel really bad. Like, similarly to what you said about us missing our pairing session after four weeks. Right. We had that habit also. Let's talk about confidence. What does that discipline of showing up every day do with your confidence? You just feel awesome about yourself. You raise your standards, and my standards are show up in the gym every day and do the hard work because as you say, it's not always fun. Obviously you're not going to do a bunch of lights up. Obviously you do hard work. And with coding, the same, ideally have a program, a routine that constantly challenges you. Right. That's the same with working out and becoming a programmer. Right. You cannot stay at the same level. You need to increase the load. Right. So, yeah, yeah. Anyway, that discipline is super extensible to all areas of life, and that's why we are keen on working out and the fitness, because it carries over to so many other areas in life. Yeah, no, I love it, man. And actually, that's a really good point that you bring up with the confidence thing. You know, when you do that, you're proving to yourself that you can do something, that you can commit to something, that you have that self control to own your routine, to own your own schedule, all sorts of other things, and it just honors. Great. Yeah. This great flow on effect. So. Love it. Love it. All right, that's us. We had a mutual soapbox this week. Yeah. And we said love it at the exact same time. It's kind of scary. I think that's it for the nugget and the content, or did you want to add anything? No, I'm good. I'm good. Ready for bed. All right. Before that, what you're reading. What am I reading? So what am I going to go read in bed in like ten minutes? Aside from piebite stuff, I was talking about the wizard of Earthsea. So I actually just got so sucked into it, I finished it and I forgot how short it actually was. So I was like, this is it. Damn. So I finished that. I'm on the second book, which is like the Tombs of Atiwan or something like that. I don't know, but I'm going to kick that off tonight. And just the other thing, a slight book win I wanted to share was, you know, I got the kids, the barefoot investor, the kids book. Glad you're sharing that. Yeah, it came out last week. It launched, and it's just building such incredible money habits with, with my, my two boys. And, uh, to the point where over the weekend they're talking about entrepreneurial stuff, they're talking about adding chores in for the sake of the fact that they're, they're going to have some chores that they get paid for, which I already do. Uh, so they don't get pocket money, they just get paid for the work they do in the house, and then they're going to do three extra chores, because that's what it means to be part of the family, to help out in the house. And I was like, oh, my gosh, yes. Didn't even think about that one. But they love it. So that's a win, man. Book winner. Slidebook read for me. Yeah, there you go. Super amazing. Inspiring. And you got me to order some kiyosaki book. Ninja listo nino Rico, or the other way around, but some finance stuff because. Yeah, you cannot teach that stuff early enough. Right? It's a life skill. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Awesome. And what about you? What's finishing? And the cool thing about video? Well, audio listeners cannot see this. YouTube listeners can see this. I'm finishing the emotional revolution, harnessing the power of your emotions for a more positive life. So a lot of mindfulness and just, you know, recognizing emotions. And it's an interesting read. It's a bit long. There are some boring parts, so I did skip ahead a little bit. Perfectionism. Right. You don't have to read the whole book. Exactly. I'm working on that. And I just. Yeah, I think emotions, well, that's your department mindset. Emotions are super important. Right. So it's good to spend some time learning how to, you know, recognize great awareness and all that stuff and finally picking up refactoring second edition again. One third in. Really good read. I mean, that's a classic. And it's just joy, you know, the refactorings, the code. Very well explained. And it's just an awesome catalog of refactorings. So I'm recognizing a lot, learning some new stuff, and it's a, it's a JavaScript, but, you know, it's just generically, it's, it's, it's really readable. Still apply. Yeah, yeah, nice. I like, highly recommend it. Yeah, excellent. All right, well, we'll have all those links in the show notes anyway for anything. Pivot's books, reading list. Yeah, exactly. Perfect. Well, that's it. So everyone, no shout out. Things. I was going to say before we go. We are. This is episode 96. 96. 96. Yeah, we need to do something special for number 100. Yeah. So if you have any ideas for episode 100, uh, let us know. We'd love to hear from you, but. Yeah, I don't know what we're going to do. No, I think they need to do a live event. Oh, my gosh. That's not recorded, bro. I got to edit this out. Yeah, yeah, let's celebrate. Hundred, I mean, hundred episodes. That's a major feat, right? Almost looking at the calendar four weeks from now. That might be like a kind of before Christmas. Getting. Getting close. Yeah, we should be able to do it. I'm looking forward to it. We've got to do something special. I did wear your special Christmas outfit. For sure. Yeah. Okay. I have a Santa hat, so I'll wear a Santa hat. I don't have anything else. I'll come up with something. Okay, that's it. You know, I'm cutting this episode before you come up with any more stuff for me to do it on our hundredth episode. So thank you, everyone, for listening. We appreciate all your support over the past 96 episodes, and we will be back next week. Done. Yep. Hope this is helpful. And we're back next week with a new episode. Thanks for listening. Cheers. We hope you enjoyed this episode. To hear more from us, go to Pibyte friends, that is Pibit es friends, and receive a free gift just for being a friend of the show and to join our thriving slack community of python programmers, go to Pibytes community. That's pibit es forward slash community. We hope to see you there and catch you in the next episode.