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You just got to get in there and do things that make you uncomfortable. And the best thing you can do is figure out how. How you recognize what life makes you uncomfortable and why it's making you uncomfortable, and then seek ways to overcome that uncomfort and, you know, start to get your hands and a grip on it. Hello, and welcome to the Pibytes podcast, where we talk about Python career and mindset. We're your hosts. I'm Julian Sequeira. And I am Bob eldebos. If you're looking to improve your python, your career, and learn the mindset for success, this is the podcast for you. Let's get started. Welcome back to the Pibytes podcast. This is Julian. A quick introduction for the episode. Today I am interviewing a wonderful human being named Peter lynch. For those of you playing at home, Peter was on the Pie Bytes podcast roughly two years ago. I think it was episode 18. So this episode is a special one where we check back in with Pete to see how he's been going on his journey from being a marketing director at a large conglomerate to becoming a software developer and even taking on some entrepreneurial stuff as well. So it's a really great episode. Very much enjoyed recording this with Pete. We have. It's just he and I. Bob didn't make it, unfortunately. I apologize, but Pete and I had some great laughs along the way. So expect a good time and enjoy the listen and see in a bit. Enjoy the interview. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Pie Bytes podcast. This is Julian. I am actually here with our guest today, Peter Lynch. Pete, how are you going to. Oh, great, thanks, Julian. It's nice to be back. It's like a coming home nice. So, yeah, welcome back to the Pie Bites podcast. We are. Well, I am super excited to have you here because Bob bailed on us tonight, very unceremoniously, I might add, for everyone listening and watching. No, I'm kidding. Of course not. But thank you for coming back. This is a very exciting episode for me because we interviewed you, uh, like, two years ago or something like that. Um, and so this episode is like a follow up to see how you've been going. But before we do that, for those of you who are listening and for our viewers on YouTube, uh, for the people that don't know who you are, do you want to give a quick introduction? Sure thing. Um, so my name is Peter lynch. I'm a software developer for a company called Envato, mostly writing reaction and Ruby code at the moment. And that's. That's about it. For me, that's. That's all Pete is. That's all he is. Which is why we haven't here. No, I'm sorry that you only code in react and stuff, though. And there's no python. So what are we. What are you doing on the podcast again? This podcast, the dream is to be a python developer. Nice, nice. I'm just giving crap. Well, look, so thank you for joining us again, Pete. I'm glad you didn't give away too much in the intro because that's what we're going to jump into throughout the episode. But before we begin, as we always do, we celebrate some wins. So for you being the guest, go for it. What's your win this week? Anything in particular? Yeah, this week I'm one step closer to retirement, earning my 1st $100 on a side project. It's that hockey stick growth at the moment. Oh, that's nice. That's very cool, man. That 1st $100 on your own project is just magical. You may as well just retire now. It's quit the job. It's not going to get any better than that, is it? Yeah, yeah, no, after that, doesn't. Nothing matters. No, it's cool, man. And it's. It's infectious. Right. Once you see that you're providing value and people appreciate it from monetary perspective, it just makes you want to keep going. Yeah, 100%. That's like, that first order was like, so motivating. It was. Yeah, it was literally a three dollar order. And I was like, holy crap, someone's giving me money on the Internet. Like, what? What is going on? That is cool. I love that. That's wicked. Okay, well, before I jump in, I'll share my win quickly. This week did. I don't know if I shared this last week. No. Anyway, this week we had another coach begin with pie bytes with PDM. After this, I have a meeting with a third new coach. So by Friday this week, we'll have three new coaches joining the program, covering different functions for our clients. So next week's win is going to be that we're going to have our very first team meeting with all the people that work with piebytes together at once. And I'm pretty excited by that. Pie bytes incorporated. Pie bytes. Copyright pty. Big time. Big time. Three coaches. That's awesome. Yeah. So three. Three more coaches. Going to be. It's going to be awesome. So that's something I can't stop grinning about this week. When I think about it, it's very exciting. All right, so let's jump in. Without further ado to give everyone some heads up. When you were last on the podcast you had, I think you were six months into quitting your full time corporate job youd taken a boot camp. Just correct me if im wrong. And youd moved into web development. So we talked a lot about that mindset of taking the plunge to chase something that was very different to what you were doing day to day in the corporate world, which a lot of our user sorry listener base engaged with and appreciated back in the day. So now that its been almost two years, I think almost to the month its been two years, I'd love to hear from you, you know, what have you been doing since then? So just you get talking, I'm going to stop talking and drink from my mustache. A glass of water. Go for it. Yeah. So in the last two years I've just really been focusing on developing my technical skills. So I think when I spoke to you, I was looking for my first role, networks my little butt off to get my first job. And since then it's just been head down, sort of up, getting better at development. One good thing is that when I came into the organization, I wasn't just like a junior developer, I was in the technical sense, but I had the ability to work within an organization and work with other people because I have a career before development. So I think that really helped out. Like, I know I knew how to communicate to my product manager and things like that. And so that let me really just focus on the tech and since then I've been promoted to the next level of engineering. Wow. I feel a lot more confident and, you know, every day I sort of realize how much more I know because you go from a bootcamp and you're working on your own little code base to this massive code base with several repos and you've got to be across them all. And then the context switching and things like that, it really fried me for a while. I think there was a lot of time that I wasn't doing anything but working nine to five and then being exhausted at the end of the day. And I've sort of recently just started coming out of that and feeling like I have the energy to do things after work. Yep. Yeah. So, yeah, yeah, that's cool. So one, congratulations. You said you've been promoted. That's, that's amazing. Great to hear that in, what, the first one and a half to two years. That's amazing. And so there's a few things I wanted to poke at. So obviously everyone watching and listening. We have zero agenda. I just wanted to talk with Pete. I'm coming up with these on the fly. And, Pete, you're answering these on the fly. So you mentioned the networking piece. If you could think back, I know that was a year and a half ago. The networking piece, the job hunt, is something that a lot of people that we come across with find very difficult, challenging, scary, you know? So how if you were to give one piece of advice from your experience doing that, that led you to getting the job, what would that be? One piece of advice? You said networking your butt off. Right? But, yeah. Just anything more specific? What does it look like? Yeah, I think around networking. Right? Like, everyone has this idea that networking is like walking into a room full of people and going around and shaking hands and awkwardly talking to people. And I think that kind of networking sucks because everyone's there doing the exact same thing. And so that's not the networking I'm talking about. What I'm talking about is, like, going on something like LinkedIn, looking at my current connections, finding companies that I want to work for or companies that have openings, and then looking and saying, do I have any, like, second degree connections? Third, that I can, like, reach out to the person I know to say, hey, can you introduce me to this person? You know, I think I'd be a great fit for their company, and they're hiring for these reasons. And then it's just setting up, like, a video chat or asking some questions over email. So don't. So the advice there is, don't think of networking as, like, what people would tell you it is. It's. It's whatever you want it to be, but it's. The aim is, like, just forming connections. Don't go in there thinking you're going to get a job or that they should help you, but find out if it is a job that you want, and then, you know, build rapport with that person and then, you know, keep following up. It might not be this job, it might be the next one, but it's like, it's just about building relationships over time. So, yeah, it's slow, and it sucks when you start because you're broke. You want a job, you know, you just want to start putting the skills you've learned into practice. But, yeah, it's a slow. It is a slow burn. Unfortunately. That's. That's a nice dose of reality, because I think a lot of people who have the skill set think that it should be a quick thing and that if it isn't, then it's imposter syndrome. They're the ones that suck. They're the. They're the ones that. The problem is them. They're not getting a job because they're not good at what they do. They bombed this. They can't. Especially when you never hear back from a contact or a recruiter after applying. Not many places will follow up, and it's very easy to feel like you're the problem. But I think what I love from what you're saying is that it'll happen. You just got to have that grit and determination to keep pushing and keep reaching out to that network. Um, it's also a nice reminder, Pete, that your network can be anyone. So, I see a lot of people with LinkedIn, uh, profiles that don't have a lot of connections. That's okay. Uh, but if that's because you're afraid of connecting with people, don't think of it like Facebook and Instagram, where you kind of really want to know who it is that you're connecting with. Um, if you meet someone at a party, you. You know, by all means, reach out to them on LinkedIn and connect and say, hey, it'd be cool to connect professionally. Cause you're not sharing stuff like pictures of your kids and birthday parties and stuff on. On LinkedIn. This is a very. It can be a very professional network, so, um, don't be afraid to grow it. I like that. Um. All right, so you've got the job. It immediately was a culture shock from what you're expecting. Elaborate on that. You mentioned the repo that you're working on stuff, but for people, and frame this from a perspective of people coming in, they landing their first developer job. What hit you in the face like a truck, what got you things they don't teach you is code reviews, like having your code reviewed how to review someone else's code, ways of working, like, I don't know, picking up work, moving it through the board, things like that. You just. I don't think anything can sort of really prepare you for that. And that was a real shock. Like, I had no idea how to review someone else's code because I'm barely writing good code, and then, you know, you're expected to get in there and review code. So that was quite a shock. What really helped there was pairing during reviews or having the person that's written the code door walkthrough, and you get a chance to sort of ask questions. There. There's nothing worse. You go in your review someone's code you go, yeah, it looks fine. Looks good to merge. Yeah. And then the next person comes in and goes, f this, f that. This is wrong. Like, you know, we need to change this. And you're sitting there like, oh, look good to me. And I just approved that. Yeah, yeah. So just stuff like that is, you know, I, I come from marketing and also different personalities. You know, I think in different industries, different people are attracted to different industries and just navigating that. A little bit of a culture shock as well. Yeah, that's, that's a good one. I appreciate that. I think, you know, the whole different personalities thing, the, I feel like that's everywhere that you're going to go, you're going to hit that. I certainly hit that through my career a few times, but now I would be doing everyone a disservice if I didn't say this. And I know everyone listening to this is going to start groaning like, oh, here we go, here he goes, here he goes. But the stuff that was a shock to you, and by the way, everyone, this was not pre planned, but this is how my mind's working. That's the stuff that we actually coach people through in PDM, in our coaching program. So when they, obviously it's Python based, not front end based like you're talking, but, um, when people get through the program, they're learning the code review process, they're getting their code scrutinized, they're sometimes arguing why they're making code choices in their code, pull requests with their coach, and there's that discussion period there. So they're getting that experience. They work, they've created a whole bundle of issues and they're choosing which ones to focus on given the time restraints and all these sorts of things. So it's kind of nice, actually, to hear that that was something that hit you as a professional software developer because to me it reinforces that what we're doing with people actually does set them up for that success when they join a team and they're like, oh yeah, I did this with my coach. That's cool, I get it. So we'll have to just get into front end coaching soon. One day. It's all the same. It's, you know, if you're reviewing Python or you're reviewing JavaScript, it's the same things matter. Like, and one thing, I don't know if you teach this, but, like, one really good thing I learned is like, just phrase stuff as a question, like, don't, you don't come out guns blazing, right? Like, you just go out and say, like, is this, like, is. Is this the pattern we usually use or something like that? And, yeah, you know, I think it sounds condescending as I say it now, but, like, it comes off. It reads well. It reads well because sometimes people are just like, oh, yeah, shit, I don't swear. I don't know if I can swear, but, yeah, you can swear. It's fine. Yeah, they go, you know, oh, yeah, damn, I missed that. Yeah, you know, but if you go. If you were to say, oh, come on, man, this pattern, like, you know, this, like, oh, this we use, this pattern is, like, doesn't read as well. So, yeah, that's the other thing. But to. To be fair, that's a sign of maturity on your part and professionalism and also coaching. Right. That's. That's you being a great teammate and coach and senior in that respect, because the people who know how to nurture their teams will approach things from a place of growth as opposed to stomping on their dreams and souls, you know? So that's. That's really cool. I love that you do that. It's also a reminder of how I talk to my children. Is that how we behave when someone says no? You tell me so. I love that. Okay, so from before, I've got one more question before we move into the side stuff that we discussed, we touched on at the start. Now that you've been in there for a while and you've been promoted, that initial wave of, you know, just all these things hitting you and it was all new to you, do you feel like you've worked through it? And how, if you have, how long do you feel that took and what. What helped you work through all of that stress and difference and culture shock? I feel like I'm probably through the worst of it, but it's. You always want, you know, the elastic band like analogy. Like, you always want to be, like, stretching just to the point that you. You're not going to break, but it's stretching, right. So, yeah, you don't. I don't want to ever be, like, through it. Through it. Like, I always want to be, like, growing and feeling uncomfortable. And if I'm not, I realize pretty quick, like, all right, I got to find some stuff that's going to challenge me, but to get through it, there's no shortcut. It's just time, and everyone's different, but then eventually, you just start putting pieces. I think of it like this. It's like your brain is like a puzzle, and you're just gradually adding pieces and then it forms up and it's like you've completed the puzzle and you've sort of like, locked that knowledge in and just takes a while. And eventually things that used to take you 30 minutes, take you ten, and then that lets you move on to the next level and take like, the harder thing. So, yeah, you just got to get in there, like, and do things that make you uncomfortable. And the best thing you can do is figure out how you recognize what life makes you uncomfortable and why it's making you uncomfortable and then seek ways to overcome that uncomfort and, and, you know, start to get your hands and a grip on it. Yeah, no, that's, that's awesome advice. I really like, and I like that rubber band or elastic band analogy. That's really cool. Keep yourself pushing, stretching. And I think it's important to remember discomfort. There's two sides to that coin. There's a discomfort of growth, which is cool. Like, hey, I I still find public speaking kind of daunting, but. So I've got to keep putting myself in those uncomfortable situations to smash that out of me. But if you're uncomfortable because you know someone's being rude to you or something, that's a bit different. So, yeah, it's important you find that line between the two types of discomfort. But I love what you're talking about. Just that idea of pushing and to keep seeking that growth because it keeps you learning. And I think it's also a great thing for everyone to remember as you're doing that, reflect back on where you came from. So, as you said, something that would take you 30 minutes before, now only takes you ten. You have to have that self reflection to go back and say, oh, yeah, now only takes me ten, which means I'm growing and I'm freaking awesome. So I'm really. I love hearing that sort of thing. So, keeping time in mind, I want to spend a bit of time on this now. So on top of your job, you also have some entrepreneurial interests, which I think we touched on last time as well. But talk to me about that. What are you doing in that space? What are you doing outside of work? What's got you working late into the night? Yeah. Helpful to give a bit of context. So, like, when I quit my, when I quit my last job and went into this, like, I wrote this blog post about how I was doing it because I wanted to build my own things and, like, I was sick of being told what to do and what to build, and I'm still like that. So I like development, but development, I don't like. I don't particularly love code reviews and whip boards and, you know, retros and all of those sort of things. Like, I don't really enjoy working in a big organization because it's like I've got some jerk CEO that, like, doesn't know me from a bar, so. And, like, telling us what to do. And then we have, you know, tech's had all these layoffs, and the people that lead you these layoffs are the ones that are still in charge. And you're like, how does this work? So I'm, like, jaded by that. So I want to forge a way for me not to have to be involved in that. And so one of the ways to do that is to build your own things and make money from that rather than just relying on income. So what I've done is I've gone to four days a week at work. So invite us. Cool. Don't get me wrong, um, bit of hyperbole in the way. I see. But, uh, yeah, so Vito's cool. They're like, yeah, go for four days, no worries. And then. So I treat that day like a work day, and I just get up and I start working away on my side projects. And so this year, I'm aiming to do six. And the reason I'm focusing on, say, like, six projects rather than, like, one big one is I don't want to put all my eggs in. In one basket. I don't want to spend six months building something. No one wants it. I've wasted six months. So what I want to do is just, like, build quickly. You know, just write rubbish code for an MVP and just get it out there and see if people want it. And then if they don't, cool. I haven't. Haven't lost that much time and I can move on to the next thing. So, right, the first thing I launched, no one wanted, which is, like, this website that, like, combined two words to help you find, like, domain names. Because I was having that problem with, like, side businesses. Like, it's like Facebook, Gumroad, you know, smashing two words together. So I was calling it, like, domain name Smash. Smash two words together. Made a wicked website. It's still us. If anyone listens to this. Go have a look. It's got sounds on it. It's awesome. It was a labor of love. But now I'm focusing on building mobile applications. So I've just built a app for Apple devices that lets you get cool new watch faces for your Apple Watch. And I generate all the watch faces using stable diffusion, so all the images AI generated. Cool. Yeah, that's cool. Because I'm not a designer, I didn't want to have to learn those skills. And, you know, recently AI has unlocked this ability for me to use my skill as a developer and then combine that with like generative AI and make, it's like, you know, it's just a simple, it's not even a crud app, it's like a read app. And people, it's just like, you read it, you read the watch faces, and I don't have to like worry about authentication or anything like that. And that's the one that I've just started making money on, so that's good. There's a little bit of validation there. Man, that is super cool. I really, really love that idea. Yeah, it wasn't, I don't think it was that robust when you first told me about it and how it worked. But yeah, the fact that it's using AI really excites me because I hope this inspires people that you can use AI to do things to fill the gaps in your portfolio and its not even a gap, but more so something that you just dont care about. I struggle with design because I just dont have that bone in my body. So thats what would normally once upon a time have stopped me from tackling, say, a project like that. But its really cool that youre able to loop that in to take that pressure off you, which I think is incredible. So again, congratulations on that. The iOS app for the watch faces, that's incredible. And just to go back to what you were saying, I think that approach of just shipping it, just getting to an MVP and letting people test it, that is the perfect way of validating a product idea that you had because people can sit there for months and years on end doing market research to find an idea. Right. And I think that's quite difficult because which ones do you settle on? Which ones do you want to chase? Right. But if you have an idea, just, I think the lesson that I really like here is just run with it. And if it's a. Doesn't seem to land like the domain smash, by the way, you have to give me the URL to put in the show notes because I want to check it out as well. After this, I was going to open up a tab and I thought, no, I should focus on this podcast. But I really love that you just, next one, dont let it demotivate you. That it didnt sort of take off like it could have or that you wanted it to move on, try the next thing. And its like Tim Ferriss, all those podcasts that weve listened to over the years where they say, oh, yeah, for every successful product we have, we have like 20 failures. I say with quotes, you know, so I love that, man. And what keeps you, what keeps you going? Because you're working the day job as well. You probably do a little bit after hours on a normal weekday, and then on the fifth day of the week that you have full time on it, you're going hell for leather on that. So what keeps you going? Keeps me going. Is it that dream that you spoke about to preface all of this to just get to be your own boss and not have to be reliant on someone else? Yeah, I think that's part of it. It's like you've got to have, you've got to have some. You've got to be motivated. But motivation can come from anywhere. So you, and there's times you're not going to be motivated and you need to keep going. So, yeah, I think that long range target, definitely, for sure. Like, I think about what sort of life do I want to live? Sometimes it's like, yeah, the negative motivator. Like, I think about, would I regret more if I didn't have a go at this? I think I might have said this the last time I was on, but I have this thing where I'm like, on my deathbed, like, what am I, what am I going to regret? Am I going to regret that I worked nights and, like, had a go at, like, trying to live a life that I want to live? Or will I regret that I, like, didn't focus on my nine to five and did what everyone tells you to do and I think it's the other one. And so I just try and think of that, and that was really motivating. Yeah. And I think what else? Looking at other people, it's quite motivating. Keeps me going. Like, looking at you and Bob and julian still read PI bytes even though I'm not, like, writing python, I read your email. I find that quite motivating. Stuff like that, you just need little bits here and there that just going to juice you up and keep you going. Yeah. Awesome, man. Thank you for that. I appreciate that. That deathbed thing I say all the time. I think I've said it multiple times with this podcast.

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30 p.m. On a Wednesday night talking with you, or will I regret, you know, sitting on the couch watching Netflix for 3 hours? I regret one more than the other. So, no, I love that. That's awesome. And, okay, so with that, you're going to give me links? I want everyone listening to this to check out Pete's iOS app. I know it's not in python. Everyone. I know. I'm sorry, I forgot. Pete moved on from python when I invited him to come and talk. I'm kidding, because I find your story so motivating. I find it so inspirational. I think a lot of people listening to this and watching this dream of being able to do what you do, right? And I think that's why I really love where you've gone. It's the small steps, right? This wasn't an overnight thing. This has been a couple of years now of real effort and growth and balance and chipping away at the day to day, corporate machine type things slowly over time, which is what I think is super relatable. If you were to give one last bit of advice to anyone listening to this who wants to go on the same path as you, what would it be? Yeah, I just, like, if so, like, I'm doing it. I'm not a good developer. I was a crappy marketer, you know? So, like, the key, you just got to have a go. Like, there's so many people, there's so many opportunities out there, and it's like, if you just have a go, you'll. You'll find them. So I procrastinated on going part time. I was like, oh, you know, money, you know, this and that. And then I just said one day, like, what am I doing? Like, do. I don't want to work nine to five for the rest of my life. Like, I want to do other things. So, like, why? If I'm. I'm doing this one thing, but I'm saying another thing, so, like, it's just, like, recognizing that, so know what you want and then just, like, go after it. Like, don't. Like Julian said, don't. Netflix will always be there, and you can watch those shows years down the track, but, you know, you only get one shot at giving it your all in life, and you should just. You should just give it a go. Like, just do it. Just do it. No, I love it, man. That's a great message, I think. Just give it a go. You got to say that with a really australian accent. Just give it a go, mate. I think that's a really nice message because I think that's the hardest step for people is to just change that habit, not to get too political. That's been indoctrinated in us from childhood, going through a schooling system that doesn't actually teach us what we need to know for life. And now I'm getting too political, so I'll stop. But, you know, can I say something like that? No, you can't. Yes, of course you can. You're right. You're 100% right. Like, I remember telling my parents I was going part time, and I tell my parents that I'm going to development, and they're like, you're crazy. Like, you went to uni. You, like, studied this. Like, you've got. You've got the good job, like, you've won at life. Like, you're getting promoted all the time. Like, what are you doing? Yep. And I'm like, I do not. Like, do you, mum and dad, do you think, like, your life's been awesome? Like, do you love, like, the job you had for the last 30 years? No, I hated it. Then why are you telling me to do the same thing? To do the same? Yeah. There's no silver bullet. Like, you're never going to feel ready. People aren't. People are going to look at you like you're crazy, but, like, you got to just flip it and look at them and say, like, you're crazy. Like, you're the crazy one. You're the one. Also sitting here telling me work sucks. You know, you wish you could do this. Like, just do it. Just do it. It's. That's a really interesting perspective. It got me thinking, right? That perspective is that my parents, as an example to match yours is that they also feel the same way. Even after almost seven years of pie bytes now, they're still scared of the idea of, oh, but, you know, you're running your own business. You're not just working for a company. They still have that mentality, but they never had that opportunity to have information at the fingertips. With AI and the Internet and all the stuff that we do, we can build businesses from anywhere on this planet. They couldn't. So I get that. On the flip side, you've got kids growing up like my kids, who have information overload and can get whatever they want anywhere, anytime. And so for them, the idea of working a nine to five job, like, I feel like, needs to be drilled into them as opposed. Because life can be so flexible for them, they can see that anything is possible. And, yeah, now I'm getting very political. Society's going to try and mold them into the confines of working on a production line for the rest of their life. I think this generation coming up is going to be one of the ones that actually says, you know, and that's why this whole return to office thing, I think, is such a hot debate. Yeah, it's kind of funny. The people I see arguing against it, so arguing for it, saying we should be in the office. A lot of them are the people who kind of worked those traditional roles their entire lives, their life was working in an office. The people who are against it are the ones. A lot of them are the ones that have gone. The world's changed. Get over it, mate. You know? So I'm going to leave that one there because I know it's a very touchy subject. I stopped ranting. But Pete, thank you so much for being here. I know you and I can chat for ages, so for context, everyone as well. Pete and I have caught up for beers on multiple occasions now, so we can chat for donkeys years, but we'll call it there. Thank you so much for sharing your inspiring story with me, Pete, and with everyone listening. Of course, this isn't just for me. What are you reading? Let's do a book quickly. I'm reading the. It's pronounced the moment. The mom test. The mom mom. Like, the mom test. It's about idea validation. So the whole thing is like, most you go and you go to your parents, you go like, I've got the best app idea in the world, mom and dad. And they're like. They're going to say, like, oh, yeah, it's great. Like, you're such a genius, little Peter. But it's about getting past that and actually, actually finding out if an idea is good and, like, worth building and how to, and how to do that, which is something I have no idea how to do. So good skill to learn. Nice. Did you. Out of curiosity, did you share that with Bob recently? I might have. I often reply to the pie by its emails and I think, is it bob that runs it? Cause I feel like it's always Bob that replies. No, we both reply, it's just he. Oh, I dog you. Yeah, I don't. If it's you, I move it straight to trash. Um, so, no, um, because I swear it was Bob that just told me he was reading the. The mom test and I was. Yeah, you say like that. You say the mom, not the mom, the mom mommy. I'm sure a lot of your listeners are american. Yeah, I'm pretty sure, like 90% of everyone listening to this is just got totally offended by what we. What? We just nailed that american accent. So if you dislike that american accent, please subscribe to this podcast so you can keep giving us feedback. The way you can get back at me is by going to my app and leaving a five star review. That is how you get back at me. That's the greatest revenge you can give? Yeah. Nothing will disappoint me more. Nice. I love it. All right. I won't even go into what I'm reading because I don't remember what I'm reading. I think it's still the same thing I was reading last week. I'm not like Bob who can. Or let me say Bob. Like I said, mom, Bob. It's not like Bob who reads like, ten. Bobby who reads ten books a week. So I'm still reading the same thing. I think it was the psychology of money mixed in with my Marvel Unlimited subscription. So there's a whole new Guardians of the Galaxy comic book series from this year that I'm reading. So there you go, mixing it up. Pete, a pleasure as always. Thank you so much for being here. I love it. Any. Any last words before we jump? I'll be back in a year, and I promise I'll be writing Python code because I'm probably doing some AI stuff with Python. Nice. No, I think accountability wise, I want to hear it. I'll be back in a year, and I'll be working for myself full time. That's what I want to hear. I want to hear that. Yeah, I like that. Let's put a time box it. Yep. Every time. Everyone listening, watching. You heard it, Pete. Pete committed to that, so we'll have to see how we go. All right, thank you, Pete. Peter lynch, everyone. Make sure you check out the links below. 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