
Pybites Podcast
The Pybites Podcast is a podcast about Python Development, Career and Mindset skills.
Hosted by the Co-Founders, Bob Belderbos and Julian Sequeira, this podcast is for anyone interested in Python and looking for tips, tricks and concepts related to Career + Mindset.
For more information on Pybites, visit us at https://pybit.es and connect with us on LinkedIn:
Julian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliansequeira/
Bob: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bbelderbos/
Pybites Podcast
#178 - Bridging Africa’s Employment Gap With Our New Coding Platform 🎉
We're back with a brand new episode, on our 8th anniversary today, the 19th of Dec. 🥳
We have some exciting updates, mainly around our new v2 platform and how it's going to impact people in Africa, new things that are coming, and of course book tips. 📈
Happy holidays 😎 and thanks for tuning in! 🙏
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
02:10 News, community shout outs
05:50 Believe Resourcing Group (BRG) partnership
08:40 What to gain from our v2 platform + some stats
15:59 Networking lesson
17:48 Pybites coaching ad
18:14 Learning paths + what's coming on v2
22:38 Book tips
27:24 Happy holidays
29:30 Wrap up
Links:
- BRG press release
- Pybites 8 years anniversary stats
- Code on our v2 platform
- Say Hi in our community
- Books: Python Concurrency with asyncio / The Winds of War / Welcome to the Hyunam-dong Bookshop
BRG. They're a talent acquisition company at their core right, so they're helping people in South Africa and indeed across the entire continent. So think about any country in Africa. They have connections and resources to support people. That technical and employment gap that's currently growing and existent across the continent right. Hello and welcome to the PyBytes podcast, where we talk about Python career and mindset. We're your hosts. I'm Julian Sequeira.
Speaker 2:And I am Bob Beldebos. If you're looking to improve your Python, your career and learn the mindset for success, this is the podcast for you. Let's get started. Welcome back YouTube. Welcome back everybody. Dear listeners, this is Bob, I'm here with Julian and we're back with the Bye Bye Podcast.
Speaker 1:Hey, man, I forgot how to do intros again.
Speaker 2:That was good, right, yeah, that was good, very nice, very nice. Good to be back Finally recording together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's good to have the two of us back together again. Oh geez, and just ready to have a casual chat today. But everyone, just stay with us. Stay with us. We're going to get to a point, all right, but bear with us. We have a couple of wins and just discussion points to share with you all as we get started. So what do you reckon, bob? Should we just jump straight in? Yeah, let's do it. Okay, all right. So first, as everyone knows, our Python community in Circle is just awesome, and if you don't know that it is awesome, it's fantastic. People chat about all sorts of stuff, but, bob, just quickly, quickly do you want to highlight some of the cool thing?
Speaker 2:that's some of the cool things that are happening in there. Well, one thing people have been posting about is the advent of code, so daily post and discussions, um, so that that's pretty uh interesting. And yeah, people um show all kinds of cool python stuff. Um, this might have been in pdm, but there was a whole discussion about uv corn versus g unicorn and you know coaches jumping in, clients jumping in and really getting to the bottom of what sometimes can be confusing.
Speaker 2:So, um, but same for the public community. Right, there's a lot of technical discussion going on, so, uh, yeah, that's, that's really good and I think there are now almost 1200 people in, so it's still growing. Some of that, I think we're, yeah, we're around that mark.
Speaker 1:You know what I like, though, is that some of that, I think we're yeah, we're around that mark. You know what I like, though, is that some of these threads where people are debating pythonic topics or code topics, whatever it is uh, they're actually really respectful, like I'm used to seeing these debates on reddit slack communities uh, you know, so what was it? Stack overflow and stuff, and people are just abusive to each other and rude and hide behind their keyboards, but this is really nice.
Speaker 1:There's this respectful dialogue, which I really appreciate, and when I see it, I'm just like ah, this is why we do it.
Speaker 2:A shout-out to the Python community as well, right where that tends to happen not or way less, so I'm happy that we can say that we are in line with that, you know philosophy or style.
Speaker 1:And, on that note, I wanted to give a shout out to Marcos from our community, who joined, and so when you join our community, you get an automated, of course it's automated. I even say it's automated because I can't reach out to everyone one by once as soon as they join. So you get an automated message from me, from Robot Julian, welcoming you to the community and, you know, inviting you to just talk to me, and then I get, when you reply, I get that DM and then I can, you know, type and have a chat with you. And so, marcos, he replied to that and he gave me some really good feedback today, saying that he loves the podcast and he just loves how casual and relaxed and just unforced it is. And so, yeah, thank you, marcos. That really meant a lot to me when I got that feedback. So I appreciate you listening and to everyone else who listens for similar reasons. We we like to keep things casual on this and makes it approachable, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then we don't only talk about the tech, but also the mindset which we uh. From experience, we find uh as, if not more important. Um, we also celebrated 100k downloads on the podcast, right oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:We had 100,000 down lifetime downloads on this podcast. It's just awesome, man. That was a couple of weeks ago, but just incredible. What a milestone. I still can't believe we have that many people who've downloaded the episodes. It's just crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I did it on your post, but I was going to do it here. Shout out to Jason Wadier because he launched it to actually do it because we were like in paralysis by analysis, over-perfecting, and then we just admitted that we're going to suck it at first till the first 20 episodes and then we just did it right and, it's true, right, you get better at it as you go, like with everything. So, yeah, that was that was a critical moment, thank you?
Speaker 1:yeah, I do not want to. I do not want to go back to those first episodes and listen, probably cringe, really uh. But, yeah, jason, thank you, man, it was. Uh. So this was at pycon, one of the pycons years ago. Uh, he was, I think we were sitting in a starbucks or something in the states and he was like you know, you guys should have a podcast, you guys would be good at it. Just do it.
Speaker 2:We're like, oh, okay, do you believe in us jace head slap moment right like, oh yeah, yeah, probably should have a podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it would, yeah it would be fun, it would be fun. So there we go. Okay, so with all that aside, should we jump into the main topic?
Speaker 2:Yeah, sure.
Speaker 1:It's about time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1:So everyone, as you probably guessed from the title of this episode, as you're streaming it, watching it, whatever Bob and I are really, really excited to announce our very first partnership from PyBytes with PyBytes, with a lovely company based in South Africa called Believe Resourcing Group, which I'll just call BRG, because that's a I'm not going to keep saying that, but BRG they're a talent acquisition company at their core, right.
Speaker 1:So they're helping people in South Africa and indeed across the entire continent. So think about any country in Africa. They have connections and resources to support people with landing roles across all sorts of different jobs and disciplines across the entire continent. So they're doing amazing work and we've worked out a partnership with them where they will be helping us get the PyBytes platform that you all know and love or at least I hope you know and love getting that into schools and universities and other educational institutions to build awareness and bridge that technical and employment gap that's currently growing and existent across the continent, right. So there are some pretty stark and scary and sad statistics there with you know 30% plus for people between the ages of 18 to 35 being unemployed. You know that's mad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's absolutely scary and they don't have the access to technology, to these kinds of platforms that will help them skill up. So us coming in there with the PyBytes platform through BRG, supporting it, making those connections and using their resources and networking with the governments and everything like that across the continent, is going to be so impactful and we're really, really excited to get it in there. So I've been talking for a bit. So, bob, I'm going to throw this to you and I guess I just want everyone to know right, everyone's used to the platform from a perspective of I'm a professional developer, I'm someone who already knows a bit of Python. I'm 30 years old, I kind of want to dabble in Python. I might do the newbie bytes. But for the crowd that we're targeting in Africa, that would benefit from this the most. So students, university students, people who are unemployed, all these kinds of groups how would they benefit from the platform?
Speaker 2:Well, it's deliberate practice on storage, right. So all the exercises are going to work. But if they're new, newbies 50, we extended them. Russell did an amazing series of screencasts on YouTube, so right there, if they are new, that will give them the fundamentals right and then, classically, the leap to intros or beginner. Uh, python learning path was too steep so that's why we extended the newbie offering. So there's now this perfect, you know, uh, leveling and there's no gap anymore. Um, also constantly working on making it better, the descriptions and fixes and all that uh.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I think interesting here as well will be learning paths, so they can can just branch out into these different sub areas of Python or even related fields.
Speaker 2:So, you know, we have decorators, data tools, like all the good standard library stuff and people keep calling it out like, compared to other platforms that support many, many languages, therefore also are more shallow and ours is really focused on Python and I think all that, years of years of work.
Speaker 2:Now we see the tip of the iceberg with the V2 rewrite and it's faster and more responsive, but actually the whole work behind of all the exercises, I think, years, years of building and fine-tuning, with all that incredible feedback we've been getting on V1. But I think for them, yeah, it will be interesting for them to branch out into learning paths and for us to do more of them, both on core Python as well as maybe things like I think you were talking about PyExcel the other day Cybersecurity is hot, but also things like type hinting on Python. That's super important and we want to do more of. I'm not sure if it answers the question, but, yeah, just long story short, there's something for everybody. But if they're completely new, they can upskill fast, but if they're advanced, they can also go into these branches. Yeah.
Speaker 1:No, that's a perfect answer. What I'm really excited about with this is that something we kind of took for granted with the platform, because we've, you know, most of our market is in these Western countries like the US and Australia and Canada and the UK and so on. We don't really think about how people in other nations that aren't so fortunate to have access to these platforms, we don't think about what the impact is of not having access to that. So many of these people just don't even realize that, hey, with access to a platform like ours, like the Pi Bytes platform, I can actually work my way into a career like that. It's not just something for the people on TV, it's not just something for the elite few with the opportunity that already have that opportunity and wealth, you know. So what really makes me proud is that these newbie exercises, specifically that I mean I remember writing these man years ago just sitting there. This was before we, I think, did we write it before we did coaching. I don't even remember.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah sure, we did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and.
Speaker 2:I've been around for coaching is four years, so that is at least five, six years, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I remember writing these, just thinking we should have some exercises for people who know absolutely nothing. I just remember sitting there over a week just smashing these out into a GitHub repo for you to review and write the tests for as we were going back and forth Beautiful my wife was the test subject to to read through the text, like, does this make sense? Am I assuming too much? So to me, the it's an absolute privilege and I don't say that you know to sound up myself, but it's just it's so exciting to think that something that I just wrote kind of randomly on a whim is now potentially going to make such a huge impact throughout an entire continent of over a billion people. So to me that's like the ultimate. We've peaked with our value of lifting people up and being there for people. So while I have the opportunity, while I have the microphone, I just want to give a shout out to the team at Believe Resourcing Group. So the CEO, angie.
Speaker 1:Then you got Bernadine, zani and Janine, who I've all met now, and Bob you met a few of them as well who just their excitement for what we're doing is. It was just infectious. And if you check out my LinkedIn everyone. If you go check, our links should be in the show notes for this episode. If you look at my LinkedIn, you'll see just all the communication and excitement around this and it's just spawning all sorts of cool stuff happening, so stay tuned. I'll start waffling about it now, but it is something we're very proud of, something we didn't realize. We've spent so many years working towards this without even intending to, and we're just very lucky that we've built this friendship and partnership and very, very excited to see where it goes and the impact that it has. There you go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and do you want me to share some quick stats?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, please do, Of course.
Speaker 2:There are almost 1,400 users right now and, yes, last week we had a record number of exercises solved, which was uh 1125. So that's what is that? In seven days, it's like uh. I'm almost getting to the 200 exercises a day. So, uh, that's really cool, um, but that's funny enough.
Speaker 2:Of those 1125 exercises, 978 were um newbies, so so 80% or so is is newbies, so there% or so is newbies, so there's just a lot of demand for, like you know, I mean some of that are school students. Of course that might skew the stats a little bit, but that's an interesting data point, yeah around 5,200 people joining every week, but that will of course, be more when this kicks off, yeah, so I'm really happy that we did the rewrite because, yeah, that was now, in hindsight, really needed, because the old platform was functional but it was not really scalable, both design and performance-wise. Awesome man.
Speaker 1:So actually kudos to you and thank you to you for all the work you did for that, for the new platform for 2.0. It's just incredible what you were able to whip out in such a short period of time. Right, this was built in like three weeks, which is just mind-blowing.
Speaker 2:Six weeks, yeah, but the core was probably three weeks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was funny right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we have a whole podcast about this where we actually build a prototype for a rust platform which is still out there, we still want to go back to, and that became then the model for this that was funny and that's kind of cool right.
Speaker 2:It also shows, with this partnership, that kind of cliche about just do it because we could never have really anticipated this right. And so any any entrepreneurs in the audience, um, if you have doubts or you know you're over perfecting, I would say, just launch. You know, because we we you've followed us for a while and we've been from blog to training, to platform, to coaching and now to to platform, to that oh and further scaling, and that all just happened organically, right. So it's it's just good to get started and further scaling, and that all just happened organically, right. So it's just good to get started and don't over-perfect, because you never know how this the journey is not like I was talking with somebody yesterday. It's not linear, right. It's kind of like this if you see me on video like Also you can hear right, but it's like, yeah, it's a snake trail.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, no, you're exactly right, and this whole thing is also a lesson in you never know what conversation is going to lead to where. No points. Yeah, I'm constantly talking to our clients in PDM about this. I'm like, just make the time for people and have a conversation. Obviously, don't sit there and say I need something out of every conversation, right, that's a bit selfish, right, but also there's nothing wrong with knowing that.
Speaker 1:Hey, every relationship that you have out there, something may come of it that may be life-changing, and that may not be right now, but it could be in five, 10 years and indeed this connection and relationship with BRG is years in the making be life-changing, and that may not be right now, but it could be in five, ten years, and indeed this connection and relationship with uh brg is years in the making. I won't go into that detail, but, um, it's, and who could have known when that first connection was made, that would, it would end up here. So it's just a. It really is a good reminder for people that just talk to people, just be human, connect, connect on a personal level, uh, do it unselfishly. Uh, be, be interested in the other person, right? What's our favorite?
Speaker 2:I agree, I was going to mention it to be interesting, be interested, yeah be interested yeah, exactly, so be interested in people and and people.
Speaker 1:But it's like taking honest interest in them, not just fake it, but really care and really care about other people and these things just inevitably happen. So, anyway, I'll stop yapping on about that, but stay tuned. There's a press release on LinkedIn. There'll be more things coming. I'm sure You'll hear about it. We'll write about this in email and, especially as the wins start coming in with like hey, we got the platform into this school and now there's 600 students learning Python for the first time Like that's something I can't wait to share when those things start happening.
Speaker 2:So in just 12 weeks. Pybytes elevates you from Python coder to confident developer. Build real-world applications, enhance your portfolio, earn a professional certification showcasing tangible skills and unlock career opportunities you might not even imagine right now. Apply now at pybites, slash PDM.
Speaker 1:Yeah, stay tuned.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, and shout out and thanks for the networking on your side and that's that's what you do best, you know, and uh, but well, that also frees me up. It frees me up for the, the coding and the technical side, which is much needed for a platform. So we have 422 exercises, definitely committed to growing that to 500 next year, like, as mentioned, type hints, maybe PyExcel, maybe we can do something with NanoDjango, but also just Python standard, you know, maybe algorithm or whatever exercises SQL model will still need to do. So, yeah, we'll keep growing that collection and making it better because, yeah, we're super excited about this and just what the platform is doing for people.
Speaker 1:You know Exactly. It's a good reminder as well that doesn't matter what path you want to go down with python, machine learning, ai, opencv or whatever it happens to be right. Uh, network engineering, that sort of stuff, you still need to know the fundamentals, and that's where the platform really comes into its own.
Speaker 2:So you can get those fundamentals. Yeah, sorry you go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, was going to say it just means you get that stuff down and then you start branching through the learning paths. That's what I want to say.
Speaker 2:And it's by size, right, Because that's when the code, those challenges, are amazing. Right, they're really well put together, but they're also big. They can take you hours, right, the byte well, the byte can, depending the bite well, the bite can, depending the level, can also take you hours. But generally, you know it's it's, it's just about finishing one, two, three small functions, um, or one big function, right, so it's still bite size. So it's what we hear often is that like this is like this nice, um, first thing in the morning workout type thing, I do, you know, and then you have the street calendar that you can, you know, keep yourself accountable and all that. So, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's pretty cool. No, that's cool. So now, just to wrap it up nicely, imagine an entire continent of people learning to code on that, isn't it? That to me is just exciting, man. I can't get over it. It's going to be awesome having people just learn the right way, learn by doing, way you learn by doing, you know, repetition, and then hopefully, that inspires them to build, and I've already heard some cool stories about people who, once they were exposed to code, the incredible stuff they built from that's just, uh, beautiful.
Speaker 2:so, yeah, man I mean, I still need to learn a lot of other skills like getting get up and you know, software development engineering skills. But and even though the python fundamentals are important, and that's all covered with the platform. So it'll come oh did you want to say something about the learning path as well? Some cool thing that's coming, or uh?
Speaker 1:Not that I know what's coming.
Speaker 2:Well, we're going to do certificates for some of them.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, I forgot about those. Yeah, sorry I'm spoilering now. Yeah, so there are certain learning paths that we'll have certifications for, credly certifications for. So not our formal PCPD certification for completing our coaching, but you will get those Credly badges for certain learning paths on the platform, so we'll announce those as they come through. Just keep an eye on the platform and you'll see them pop up. We'll have a marker to indicate that yeah, if you complete this learning path, you'll earn a Credly badge and that's something you can put with pride on your LinkedIn profile, put on your CV, that sort of stuff. But we wanted to do that for the more noteworthy learning paths that are actually quite challenging and difficult to complete. So not all of them will have it, but the ones that are quite niche will have them. So expect them for things like I don't know. Maybe I think we might do object-oriented programming, data analysis things like that.
Speaker 1:PyTest yeah.
Speaker 2:Or maybe going into domain things, if we do a cybersecurity one, if that's even feasible, then that could be one. But yeah we need to figure that out, I will mention that, because that's another exciting feature that's coming.
Speaker 1:Development. Well, how about this for an exciting development?
Speaker 2:We upgraded all the ninja images with the new artwork that look great, yeah, let's go to your profile page. Yeah, yeah, you also see, like the percentage still the next one, right? So you see the one you have, and then how many points you still need to earn for the next one. So that was a nice. Somebody called that out. They.
Speaker 1:They really like that yep, now there we All right. So enough patting ourselves on the back. What should we do now? What do you want to talk about? Books, books, okay. What are you reading? What are you doing? What are you reading?
Speaker 2:So I can give two. So one is the Python Concurrency with AsyncIO by Matthew Fowler. It was recommended by Will, I think, who is an Async ninja, but I actually need it for a client project now, so I need to really read up on it. I actually did a demo yesterday on Asyncio and thanks to that book and AI of course, I was able to at least get the basics down, because it's not easy stuff. The book explains it really well and why CPU concurrency might not work with the GIL and how a network IO-bound is better with that. But then it also explains the framework really well in a nice pace. So I'm enjoying that. And then on the fiction side I'm reading that's the harmon walk, wines of war. Um, that's, that's a thick one. Actually stumbled up on it in holland and I also bought this sequel. So I have now, uh, 2000 pages of war novel to read.
Speaker 2:But uh it's a bit slow going because this time of the year is really busy. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1:No, those are cool. I like that. I want to hear how that war one goes, because I'm a fan of, you know, military type books and stuff.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, it's 300 pages in and it's really good, like it's a Navy family right at the start of the Second World War and you know. So you have that family story, which is great, but then also it's a very historic novel, so you really learn about the history. So it's, that's okay. Yeah, it's that's. Uh, it's pretty good, that's cool.
Speaker 1:Not so far yeah, so so far, yeah, you never know, um, no, cool. So, from a non-fiction perspective, I'm still reading Factfulness. I won't go into that. I'm sure I've mentioned it before on the podcast, definitely mentioned it in PDM, so I'm reading that at the moment. But, nonfiction wise, I've actually, as some of you will know, I've just come to love Korea, like the country, the culture, the people. It's just a beautiful place.
Speaker 1:I've been learning the language on Duolingo for two years now. I've been there twice over the past couple of years for work and it's just, it's lovely, right. We even have people in the PyBites team based in Seoul, and so I've just randomly was recommended at the bookshop, at the bookstore, a Korean novel, just a very short, small, thin one. I think it was like I don't know 180 pages. It wasn't that big at all and I just I really loved how it was written. So a book was then recommended to me called Welcome to the Hainan Dong Bookshop, and that's a place in Korea in the book and it's just a bookshop, that's there.
Speaker 1:I'm not even that far into it. I think I'm 50 something pages into it, but it's a thick enough book and it's just a really relaxed, chill story, like at this point in the book, by page 52, I still don't even know what the friction is going to be Like. Well, what is the problem? Where is the? Where is the challenge in this book going to be for the main character? So I'm not there yet, but to me it has just been such a pleasant, relaxed read and I just I kind of love how, in these two Korean books, now that I've read that I'm reading, they weave in, you see, that culture and it's reminding me of things from when I was there, reminding me of the conversations I have with people and just how it goes. So I'm really enjoying it. It's a nice read.
Speaker 2:Sounds like the complete opposite of the war novel.
Speaker 1:It is so far winter summer like everything is opposite. It was just it was. It was actually quite funny because someone said you should read this. If you like that other one, you should read this. And then my, my wife, mel Mel. She said I've got that book. I'm like, have you read it? She's like, no, not yet, but it's just there by the bed. So I was like, oh, there it is. So I picked it up, started reading it. Now I'm hooked on it.
Speaker 2:So yeah, very much enjoyable. Yeah, like we discover these books like randomly, you know, like this book of it, and then you have these book closets in in holland, right where they ditch books they no longer are one, so you can pick them up and there's a some thick tome I don't know why. I mean the color and the symbol on it that just sparked my interest. And then randomly you stumble upon a book like that, right, it's, it's, yeah, it's kind of curious why not?
Speaker 1:I? I've come to love doing that, just picking up books at random, going, you know, I think I'm, I think I'm going to buy it and just have a read. I mean, I'll read the blurb, have a flick through a few pages, but for the most part I like just buying a random book and seeing how it goes. You know, yeah, pretty cool. Anyway. So, with that said and done, the last thing I just want to say and I'm going to say this now just in case we don't get a chance to record I hope everyone has a wonderful. You know I'm going to try and be respectful of everyone here, but I hope everyone has a wonderful holiday season, a wonderful Christmas, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:Enjoy the time off, as we always say. You know, make sure you take that time, because most places will force you to take the time off work, but if you do get the time off, make sure you're actually relaxed. Do something for yourself. Don't work, don't turn on the email, stay off social media, go and live a little and enjoy yourself. And so I've got hobbies to do, bob's got hobbies to do, as we talked about earlier. Bob, and just know that well, yeah, coding, but also, just as well as something formal, is that we will be stepping away from pybytes from the 20th of december, coming back on, uh, monday, the 6th of january. So I say that because if anyone reaches out, expect delays. You know I'm not going to jump up um away from the beach or whatever it is we're doing for Christmas, just to respond to an email.
Speaker 2:That sounds so long, but I think you included like three weekends. So then it's not 14,. You're up to 16 or 17, right, yeah, yeah, no of course, of course you include the weekends Friday the 20th, that's Royale.
Speaker 1:Saturday 21st Sunday 22nd yeah, so anyway, anyway. Yeah, it's two weeks, two working weeks off. Sunday 21st Sunday 22nd yes, Anyway, anyway, yeah, it's two weeks, two working weeks off, just like the rest. Most of the world is taking that. So if you are in a job where you can do that, enjoy it. If you are not and you are working through, I hope it's quiet and peaceful for you and you can actually take some time to relax, because, believe me, I've had to work through Christmas and New Year's before I know what that's like. So, yeah, good luck to anyone doing that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well said. Merry Christmas, enjoy the break and we'll be back, maybe in another episode before, but otherwise in the new year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll try and do another one, but I wanted to say that just in case. Actually, when's the Pie Bites anniversary?
Speaker 2:It's like the 18th 19, 19 yeah I should put eight years, eight years on the 19th.
Speaker 1:So we should try and record next week before that happens.
Speaker 2:But we'll probably just sit there and have a drink yeah, I think so perfect, all right. Thanks for listening and watching.
Speaker 1:We'll be back in a bit. We'll see you soon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, keep the feedback coming right. New bytes any or you know. Send a message on Circle, join Circle and post anything there. Too easy.
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